Chinese Grammar Wiki

Chinese grammar wiki

I just learned about a Chinese Grammar Wiki from Chinese Grammar Wiki: Learning Chinese grammar just got easier, which had this to say about it:

AllSet Learning, the Shanghai-based language learning consultancy founded by long-time China blogger John Pasden, has just released what is surely a boon for mandarin learners who aspire to achieve better Chinese grammar — the Chinese Grammar Wiki.

As an on-again, off-again Chinese learner, I’m pretty excited for the resource. Few people I’ve met have spent as much time as John thinking about language learning, particularly as to how it relates to Chinese. His blog and various resources at Sinosplice have been extremely helpful over the years, and I have to imagine that with his ambition and love for the language behind the wiki, it’s sure to be fantastic.

I second that emotion.  What do you think?

UPDATE:  A reader sent me an email regarding a “wiki-ish” site he likes called Wordbuddy:

It is wiki-ish because it is a dictionary that anybody can add to (slang, etc). Other sites can do this, but this one is interesting because people can also add ‘memory tricks’ for learning words which everybody can share. For example:

书 (shū): The librarian will ‘shoot’ you if the <book> is not returned on time.

东西 (dōng xi): In old times, a “donkey” was one of a person’s most basic <things>.

讨 (tao3): The purpose of a <discussion>(讠) is to slowly inch(寸) toward an agreement.

独 (du2): A dog(犭) with flees(虫) will be shunned by humans and other dogs. He’ll become a <lonely> “dude”.

These are just off the cuff examples that users have entered. The site also integrates flashcards, radicals, translation, study lists, forums, etc, and makes a very good training tool for learning vocabulary.

Having spent part of last night helping my youngest daughter memorize Latin American capitals, I can vouch for the value of using memory tricks. Does anyone have a good way to remember the capital of Uraguay is Montevideo, the capital of Paraguay is Asuncion, and the capital of Ecuador is Quito?

22 responses to “Chinese Grammar Wiki”

  1. Yea, it is a great idea but the problem with this is it assumes one is learning to read(/write) Chinese characters, even at the beginner level, at the same time as one first begins to learn the language. In other words, there is no PinYin to help one learn the pronunciation and there is no translation (that I can find) of the Chinese characters being used in the Wiki. The Wiki assumes a person knows what the Characters mean. Personally, I agree with this learning approach but often it just isn’t practical. For the beginner or immediate, there are far better tools out there IMO.

  2. @Mark: I agree that it might be a bit more convenient if the translations/pinyin were inline, but as the Allset blog post that announced the wiki said, both can be achieved pretty well via browser plugins (which the wiki links to on its front page).

  3. Yea, it is a great idea but the problem with this is it assumes one is learning to read(/write) Chinese characters, even at the beginner level, at the same time as one first begins to learn the language. In other words, there is no PinYin to help one learn the pronunciation and there is no translation (that I can find) of the Chinese characters being used in the Wiki. The Wiki assumes a person knows what the Characters mean. Personally, I agree with this learning approach but often it just isn’t practical. For the beginner or immediate, there are far better tools out there IMO.

  4. @Mark: I agree that it might be a bit more convenient if the translations/pinyin were inline, but as the Allset blog post that announced the wiki said, both can be achieved pretty well via browser plugins (which the wiki links to on its front page).

  5. Don’t know how old your daughter is, but if she’s big enough to read grown up books, then The Mosquito Coast by Paul Theroux will burn Quito into her mind. Not much use for the other capitals, as I recall, but never pass up an opportunity to get kids reading good books!

  6. Don’t know how old your daughter is, but if she’s big enough to read grown up books, then The Mosquito Coast by Paul Theroux will burn Quito into her mind. Not much use for the other capitals, as I recall, but never pass up an opportunity to get kids reading good books!

  7. This has a ways to go, but it is pretty cool already. I can’t wait to see what it’s like six months from now, after everyone has had a chance to contribute to it.

  8. This has a ways to go, but it is pretty cool already. I can’t wait to see what it’s like six months from now, after everyone has had a chance to contribute to it.

  9. I think it’s a very good idea, some many people have no clue of learning the basic Chinese grammar when they start to learn Chinese.
    Anyway, I think learning too much grammar in any language would ultimately damage your speaking and listening fluency, it’s because when you’ve too much little translation in your head when speaking, it’s impossible for you to use your subconscious mind to process all the different things in daily conversation, such as intonation, grammar, pronunciation, etc.
    I’ve discovered the secret of learning spoken Chinese effortlessly and naturally,it’s by far the most powerful way.
    It consists of 6 rules, and those 6 rules have been proven by countless research and people(including myself).
    If you’re interested in learning or improving your spoken Chinese, it’s definitely the rules you have to know, and <a href="http://effortless-chinese.com"clikc here to have a look.

  10. I think it’s a very good idea, some many people have no clue of learning the basic Chinese grammar when they start to learn Chinese.
    Anyway, I think learning too much grammar in any language would ultimately damage your speaking and listening fluency, it’s because when you’ve too much little translation in your head when speaking, it’s impossible for you to use your subconscious mind to process all the different things in daily conversation, such as intonation, grammar, pronunciation, etc.
    I’ve discovered the secret of learning spoken Chinese effortlessly and naturally,it’s by far the most powerful way.
    It consists of 6 rules, and those 6 rules have been proven by countless research and people(including myself).
    If you’re interested in learning or improving your spoken Chinese, it’s definitely the rules you have to know, and <a href="http://effortless-chinese.com"clikc here to have a look.

  11. Definitely great to have such a resource! Thanks for sharing it! Iknow that it’s a proven strategy for many students to learn Chinese in this way by creating the associations as it helps to memorize the characters and words easier!

  12. Definitely great to have such a resource! Thanks for sharing it! Iknow that it’s a proven strategy for many students to learn Chinese in this way by creating the associations as it helps to memorize the characters and words easier!

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